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the bill would be brought forward at some future period, as a substantive measure.

Sir J. Newport hoped, that the suggestion of the last speaker would not be attended to. It would be most disgusting to the people of Ireland to pass such a bill unaccompanied by any measure of relief.

Colonel Palmer rose, and proceeded to comment upon the conduct of ministers, and the speeches made by Mr. Canning.

The Speaker interrupted the hon. member, to inform him, that it was irregular to found his observations upon what had been said by a member in a former debate.

Colonel Palmer said, that having given notice of his intention on a former night, he had conceived that he was strictly in order.

Mr. Hutchinson expressed his regret for the cause which had induced the hon. member to withdraw his bill; although he rejoiced that the measure was got rid of in any way, conceiving it to be most mischievous and unconstitutional.

The order was then discharged.

OPPRESSION AT THE CAPE OF GOOD HOPE-PETITION OF JOHN CARNALL.] Mr. Hume rose, to present a petition from a person of the name of Carnall, complaining of a series of acts of oppression to which he had been subjected at the Cape - of Good Hope. When an Englishman went to any of our colonies, he imagined that he carried with him the rights of a British subject, but in this expectation he was sorry to say that he would, for the most part, find himself entirely deceived. The will and pleasure of the governors of colonies became the law of the land, and if any individual was unfortunate enough to incur the displeasure of a governor, he was almost sure to be made the victim of the most arbitrary and tyrannical oppression. Of this truth, the circumstances detailed in this petition, which were supported by the affidavit of the petitioner, afforded a striking illustration. The oppression to which this petitioner had been subjected, was of such a nature as to call loudly upon the legislature to institute an inquiry into the general system of our colonial governments, by which the liberty, the property, and even the lives, of his majesty's subjects were made dependant on the arbitrary will of the governors. It was necessary to state to the House,

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that the petitioner first became acquainted with a person of the name of Edwards, who practised as a notary at the Cape of Good Hope, in consequence of his having been summoned as a witness in a trial in which Edwards was concerned. On the 17th of September, Mr. Edwards was on his way from the Cape of Good Hope, in order to embark for Botany Bay, to which place he was sentenced to be transported for seven years, for having written a letter to lord Charles Somerset, in which he claimed redress for some alleged grievances at the hands of that governor, He had in his possession all the papers connected with this transaction, and he should be able, in a few days, to lay before the House a full statement of all the circumstances under which this iniquitous sentence was inflicted. Mr. Edwards, attended by the police officer, stopped at the petitioner's house, to take breakfast, and during the whole of this time the petitioner had no communication whatever with Edwards, except in the presence of the officer. Mr. Edwards, had occasion to retire after breakfast, and some time after, it was ascertained that he had made his escape. The petitioner declared that he was in no way accessary to this escape. At the time Mr. Edwards was about to embark, he was informed that lord Charles Somerset had, in a letter to the governor of the colony, instructed him to put him upon hard labour, and other degrading offices, which his pride and feelings as a gentleman, and a man of education, could not brook; and it was this circumstance, he believed, which had induced him to attempt to make his escape. On the news of Edwards's escape, a party under the orders of his majesty's Fiscal, proceeded to the petitioner's house, and took him into arrest. The petitioner sought in vain to obtain a sight of any legal instrument or warrant by which he was arrested; he was dragged from his home, conveyed to Cape Town, and confined in a cell 10 feet by 12, from the 17th of September to the 24th of December. He would ask, what would be the feelings of any hon. member who should thus be dragged from his home, and conducted to a cell of the dimensions he had described, with no other bedding than the mattress on which the dead were stretched, and that swarming with vermin? Yet, there was no man, whatever might be his property, or station, who was not liable, under the present system of

our colonial governments, to be oppressed by the arbitrary will of the governor. The petitioner was subject to fits, and was afflicted with some severe paroxysms during the first ten days of his confinement. Under such circumstances, all assistance was refused to him, and he was not permitted to have the slightest communica tion with his family. On the second day he was furnished with a pen, but for the first ten days no one was allowed to enter his cell, even for the purpose of shaving him. By the Dutch law it was not in the power of the governor to keep any man in confinement for a longer period than eight days without bringing him to trial. This law was utterly disregarded in the case of the petitioner. He begged to call the attention of the House to what followed. There was no principle in the English law more clearly established, than that an individual who had been tried on a criminal charge and convicted, could not be tried again for the same offence. This principle had been set at defiance in the petitioner's case, for the sole purpose of aggravating the severity of his punishment. He was brought to trial before two Dutch justices, and found guilty of having assisted the escape of Edwards. But, upon what evidence was he found guilty? The House would be astonished to learn, that a man of high respectability, possessing considerable property in the colony, had been found guilty, on the testimony of his own slave girl, who had been compelled to give evidence against her master, under a threat of severe flogging, if she refused to comply. Such was the tyranny of lord Charles Somerset, that if any man ventured to open his mouth to object to his conduct, he was liable to be deprived of his liberty and his property, and to be persecuted even unto death. The petitioner was sentenced to a fine of fifty_rix-dollars, and one year's banishment from the colony. It might have been supposed, that this was sufficient to satisfy the rancour of his persecutors; but his majesty's fiscal, not satisfied with this punishment, appealed to another jurisdiction, and again brought the prisoner to trial. On this second trial he was sentenced to five years transportation to Botany Bay. Upon appealing afterwards against this additional punishment, the governor, in his clemency, commuted it to five years banishment from the colony. He was further compelled to deposit a sum of 2,000 rix-dollars, by way of secu

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rity for his compliance with the terms of his sentence, and this money had been detained up to the moment of his embarkation for this country. Even supposing the charge against this petitioner to have been true, the punishment was such as could not, by the Dutch law, be legally inflicted. The petitioner declared, that the power of his majesty's fiscal was of such terrific magnitude, that any man who was unfortunate enough to incur the displeasure of the governor, was sure to be tormented by the forms of law, deprived of his property, and compelled to leave the colony. The petitioner had returned pennyless to this country; he had applied to the government to obtain copies of the proceedings against him, but all documents had been denied him. (Mr. H.) called upon the hon. Secretary opposite, to state the grounds on which the colonial department had refused to furnish the petitioner with the means of obtaining redress for the injuries of which he complained. There existed at the Capea sort of society, under the administration of lord C. Somerset, wholly inconsistent with all good government. He did not blame that noble person so much as the government at home, for allowing him to remain there; and the House of Commons would be much to blame if they tolerated his continuance after this statement. He was ready to prove those facts before a committee; and lord Bathurst, also, had much to answer for, if, as he believed, all these acts were known at the Colonial Department. The case of the petitioner was well worthy of inquiry. He was entitled to the amplest pecuniary compensation for the loss he had sustained; reparation for all the other wrongs and degradation he had endured, it would be impossible to make him. He had simply confined himself to this particular case; but, if an inquiry were instituted, the House would learn the gross oppressions which that colony had suffered, was suffering, and seemed doomed to suffer, under lord C. Somerset's administration.

Mr. Wilmot Horton said, it was not his intention to enter into the merits of the particular complaint which had just been stated by the hon. member; but the hon. member had inculpated the colonial department, and to that part of the case he begged to address himself. The hon. member complained, that the petitioner had been subjected to certain punishment, having been convicted in a court of justice

and its administration, and to report to the executive government, the necessary information, with a view to remedy the abuses. At the very moment when this act was alleged to have been com

in the colony investigating the law in question. He was very far from deprecating inquiry. On the contrary, as soon as the report of the commissioners should be received, he would lay it on the table. The House would be surprised at the mode in which these applications were made; and, indeed, the hon. member for Aberdeen was in some degree responsible; but it was impossible to credit the numbers of insulting applications made to the colonial office. All he asked the House was, to suspend their judgment until the report was received. The report, in one case, had been already received-he meant in that of Edwards; and if any gentleman wished to move for its production, he was ready to lay it on the table. In the particular case before the House he begged to state all he knew of it. The petitioner first laid his case and diary before lord Bathurst, and he himself (Mr. W. Horton) told him, if he had a specific complaint to make, to draw it up. The petitioner then wrote a letter to lord Bathurst, in which he complained, that "the injustice he had suffered had no parallel, and that nothing short of a remission of the sentence and a full pecuniary compensation would satisfy him." To this application an answer was given him, "That lord Bathurst had received no information respecting the judicial proceeding but from his own statement." The commissioners would include this case in the general report of the administration of justice; and of course, if a defect were found in the system, it would be remedied.

for having contributed to effect the escape of a prisoner under sentence of transportation. This was the complaint. Now, he would ask, was this the act of the governor? By no means. The petitioner was regularly convicted in a court of jus-mitted, there were commissioners actually tice, and sentenced to transportation; and how the governor must necessarily be mixed up in the case, he was quite at a loss to conceive. The petitioner had applied to the colonial department for redress; but, he would ask the House whether it was the duty of those at the head of that branch of the government, to take the single testimony of persons like the petitioner, and upon his evidence alone to order the remission of the sentence? If such a course were to be pursued, it would be quite impossible that the government of any colony could be carried on. All that they could or ought to do was, to investigate into any allegation of practical injustice, and afford redress; and, upon this part of the subject he prayed the attention of the House. They all knew very well the extent to which accusations against the government at the Cape had been promulgated. If the hon. member supposed that the colonial department were ignorant of those charges, he was much mistaken; for since the 1st January, 1824, there appeared in one newspaper, no less than twenty-four inculpatory articles, and surely this was warning enough. But, what were the facts of the case? In the year 1823, commissioners were sent out to the Cape of Good Hope. Did the hon. member propose to cast any aspersions on their character, or for one moment doubt their integrity? Did he say they were improper persons to be intrusted with such a charge? If they should prove to be so, which he could not believe, then was the government greatly deceived. They had received certain instructions upon which they were to act, and they were to report the result of their inquiries to the government; but if, in the pursuit of those inquiries, any accidental delay had taken place, in consequence of sickness, or death, or in any other manner, the government was not to be blamed. They were sent to the Cape for the purpose of introducing a change in the Dutch law, with a view to assimilate it to the law of England. And, could such an important change as this be effected in a moment? He begged to remind the House, that they had to investigate the nature of the Dutch law

Sir M. W. Ridley said, he had received information respecting one of the commissioners, who had been in such a state of health as entirely to unfit his mind for pursuing the inquiry. If the whole country were searched for a man of the utmost assiduity, ability, and integrity, he did not know of one more qualified than Mr. Commissioner Bigg.

Mr. Hume said, that the government at home should insist, that whenever a complaint of this nature was made, in which the rights of a British subject had been violated; the governor should be bound to send home all the documents

connected with the subject. If that rule | years old; and, as far as her education

were enforced they would hear of fewer complaints.

Ordered to lie on the table.

PROVISION FOR THE DUCHESS OF KENT, AND DUKE OF CUMBERLAND.] The House having resolved itself into a committee on the King's Message,

The Chancellor of the Exchequer rose. He said, that as the House of Commons had never been found wanting in inclination to manifest its attachment to the Crown upon occasions like the present, he should not think it necessary to preface what he had to offer, with any appeal to the dispositions of the House upon that subject. In the year 1818, a message had been brought down from the throne, announcing the intention of his late royal highness the duke of Kent to marry, and recommending that the House should take into its consideration what would be requisite for the dignity of the reigning family, and the honour of the country, upon such an occasion; and the House had then proceeded to make a grant of 6,000l. a year on the marriage of, in addition to the income already enjoyed by, the royal duke; with a further provision of 6,000l. a year for the duchess, in case it should so happen that she was left a widow. Now, that provision had been sufficient under the circumstances; but it had not contemplated the possible fact of the duchess surviving her husband, and being left with children. Of course it would be obvious that, situated as the members of the royal family were, money -to use a homely phrase-would not go so far with them as it would with other people. They had a state to maintain, which did not fall upon any other class of persons; and their charities, public and private, were considerable. Now, since this provision of 6,000l. a year for the duchess of Kent had been made, the duke of Kent had died, and a daughter had been born, who was now six years old. It could not be necessary for him, therefore, to point out to the House the propriety of giving a suitable education to a young princess so situated. The position in which this princess stood with respect to the throne of the country, could not fail to make her an object of general interest to the nation. He had not himself the honour of being acquainted with the duchess of Kent, or with young lady; but she was six

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had proceeded, he believed the greatest pains had been taken with her. She had been brought up in principles of piety and morality, and to feel a proper sense -he meant by that an humble sense-of her own dignity, and the rank which, perhaps, awaited her. Perhaps it might have been fit to have brought this matter before parliament at an earlier period; but the duchess of Kent had been assisted by her royal brother, prince Leopold. That, however, was not the way in which a public question could regularly be dealt with; and, with respect to the duchess of Kent, therefore, his proposition would be-that an addition of 6,000l. a year, for the maintenance and education of her daughter, should be granted to her royal highness. In the next place, it would be his duty to call the attention of the House to the case of his royal highness the duke of Cumberland. At the time of the royal duke's marriage, a proposition similar to that agreed to for the duke of Kent had been submitted to parliament, but had not been complied with. There had been, the fact was, some objection taken to the marriage. The duchess, from some cause, had not been received at court. These circumstances had probably influenced the conduct of the House; because, the only mode in which parliament could express its disapprobation of any royal marriage was, by withholding that provision which should be given for its support. Whatever the motive had been, the subject had been pressed a second time in the year 1818, and had failed; but parliament had then granted, as in the case of the duke of Kent, a provision of 6,000l. to the duchess of Cumberland, in case she happened to be left a widow. Since that time, however, a prince had been born-a son of the duke of Cumberland-who was now six years old. His position was certainly one of more remote proximity to the throne than that of the daughter of the duke of Kent; but still the country was interested in his education, and a suitable one ought to be given to him. One thing, above all, was desirable, that the education of this young prince-upon every account both moral and constitutional-should be in England. His intention was, to propose, with respect to the duke of Cumberland, that 6,000l. a year should be granted to him for the education of his son-intending that education to be given in England.

He should sit down, therefore, by moving, as his first resolution. "That his majesty be enabled to grant a yearly sum of money out of the consolidated fund of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, not exceeding in the whole the sum of 6,000l., to her royal highness the duchess of Kent, for the purpose of making an adequate provision for the honourable support and education of her highness the princess Alexandrina Victoria of Kent."

because he held any office, as the duke of Cambridge did, but he lived abroad to please himself. He lived in a cheap country too; where his income of 19,000%. per annum was equal to 30,000/. in this country. When, therefore, 6,000l. additional was asked for him and his family, why did he not shew himself amongst them [hear, hear!]? The House was called upon to grant an additional sum to sustain his and his family's dignity. Why did he not spend his income here, Mr. Brougham said, that the right hon. to maintain the dignity and splendor of gentleman, in submitting his motion, had the country from whence he drew his not deviated from the strict line of usage funds [hear, bear!]? How different was adopted onsimilar occasions, and had done the conduct of his royal brother, the heir no more than justice to the feeling which presumptive. How differently provided actuated the House. He was ever de- for, and he said so with regret, was the sirous not only to uphold the maintenance duke of York, crippled as he was with of the splendor and dignity of the reign- debts. Yet, to liquidate those debts he ing prince, but the splendor and dignity has never applied to parliament [hear, of all the other branches of the royal fa- hear!]. He resided in England. Why mily. And if, in the whole of such a con- did not the duke of Cumberland follow sideration, there was one point that was his example? What was there to prepre-eminently desirable, it was, to provide vent his living here? How did they for the suitable education of the younger know, after the House had voted the branches of that family. The proposition money, that he would allow his son to of the right hon. gentleman, was undoubt- come to England? He was not satisfied edly, extremely liberal. Still, he was not to vote the money for the education of prepared to say, that on that account he that young prince on the mere expectashould stand out against it. He was dis- tion. He must be first satisfied, before posed most certainly to afford the fullest the House parted with the money. He provision for that young princess, who knew that the public purse was considerwas the presumptive heiress of the British ed in a plethoric state; and certainly the throne. With respect to the refusal of present course was no bad means of reformer grants to the duke of Cumberland, lieving the extraordinary fullness. Let, he begged to set the right hon. gentleman however, the money be paid here, when right. It was not on account of the mar- the young prince arrived; otherwise there riage of his royal highness, that the House was no security for its being spent in of Commons refused the former proposed this country. He would much rather grants. If the marriage was improper, subscribe to pay the debts of another why was it not prevented by the advisers branch of that august family, whose carof the Crown, by the marriage laws:riages were notoriously taken in execuor, if it was felt to be unsuitable, why was tion in the public streets [hear, hear!]. it sanctioned by any subsequent offer of Were not such circumstances calculated a settlement? But, it was not the mar-to sully the splendor of the royal family? riage [hear, hear !]. He believed it was a rotoed dislike, whether ill-founded or well-founded he was not called upon to say; but he believed it to be a rooted dislike which procured the rejection of those grants. There most certainly existed a prejudice against that royal duke throughout the whole country-it was felt by man, woman, and child [hear, hear!]. The duke of Cumberland, it would be recollected, had already 18,000l. per annum, and the 15th regiment of Dragoons, which made his income 19,000l. a year. He lived abroad, not

Was it not of importance to secure the royal dignity against embarrassments and debts, the effect of which were to subject the illustrious personage, even when he visited a race-course, to such accidents, as honourable members, if it happened to themselves, would consider a permanent disgrace. It was impossible for him to conclude this subject without adverting to the great loss which this country had sustained by the death of the lamented duke of Kent. No man, who duly appreciated his talents, his enlightened opinions, and his habits of business, but must

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