TREASURER OF THE COUNTY CLARE.] Viscount Morpeth moved the third reading of the County of Clare Treasurer Bill.

Mr. Goulburn wished to know what were the peculiar circumstances in this case, which justified the Legislature in advancing a sum of money to the county of Clare?

Lord Morpeth said, that in consequence of the defalcations of the treasurer, application had been made to Government for a loan, to which application the Government had acceded, fixing the interest at four per cent.

Lord G. Somerset said, he could see no reason why the Legislature should interfere on behalf of the county of Clare, any

HOUSE OF LORDS,
Friday, July 20, 1838.

MINUTES.] Bills. Read a second time :-Conveyance of

Estates. Read a third time:-Administration of Justice (New South Wales); Vagrant Acts Amendment.

Petitions presented. By Lord GLENELG, from Carnarvon, and by the Earl of FALMOUTH, from a place in Cornwall,

for the Abolition of Idolatrous Worship in India.-By Viscount MELBOURNE, from Stockport, for the reduction

of the rate of Postage; and from a place in Ireland, in favour of the Poor Relief (Ireland) Bill.-By the Bishop of GLOCESTER, from a place in his Diocese, against any further Grant to the College of Maynooth; from Honiton, North Shields, Warminster, Ottery, St. Mary's, Cambridge, Axminster, and many other places, for the Better Observance of the Sabbath; and from a place in Kent, for the Immediate Abolition of Negro Slavery.-By Lord COLCHESTER, from the Guardians of a Poor-law Union

in Sussex, against Orders to prevent Paupers from attending the Parish Church.

the great encouragement which had been given to the inhabitants of this country to emigrate to that colony. Was it to be supposed, that they were to be induced to emigrate to a land which was to be cursed, by a short-sighted policy, with an insufficiency of Christian ministers? The sworn servants of her Majesty were bound to provide for the religious instruction of her people in the remotest portion of her dominions, as well as near the seat of Government at home; and from this responsibility there was no shrinking. The noble Baron, the Secretary for the Colonies, seemed to be very desirous to shrink from that responsibility; but if such a position were once laid down, he should have no hesitation in declaring it to be one of the most dangerous doctrines that was ever put forward by a Minister of the Crown. All the responsibility rested with the noble Baron, as the head of this department; and he defied any noble Lord to refute, or even to contradict this assertion. The noble Baron who presented this petition had spoken strongly, but not more so than the occasion justified, of the necessity of having an additional bishop

ESTABLISHED CHURCH (CANADA.)] Lord Wharncliffe presented a petition from the Rev. John Taylor, B.A., and rector of Woodstock, in the province of Upper Canada, complaining that the funds derived from the reserved lands in Canada, which were intended for the support of the Established Church there, had not been appropriated to that object. Much inconvenience and injury had been sustained by the Church in consequence, and the petitioner called on the Legisla-in Upper Canada. The noble Secretary ture to make a suitable provision for the Established Church in that country.

Lord Glenelg said, that the petition certainly deserved serious consideration, both on account of the high respectability of the petitioner and the importance of the subject to which it related. He felt every disposition to support and further the interests of the Established Church in Canada. If, therefore, the Government could not comply with the prayer of the petition, it did not arise from any indisposition or unwillingness on their part, but was to be attributed entirely to other and very different causes.

for the Colonies admitted the importance, nay, he thought, that the noble Secretary had gone so far even as to admit the necessity of making this addition. But if this statement upon the part of the noble Secretary was sincere, why did he manifest any reluctance to pay the stipend of the bishop whom he thus admitted the necessity of appointing? Now, what was the conduct of the Government with regard to another personage, who was not a bishop of the Church of England, not a member of the Church of England, but the Roman Catholic bishop of Lower Canada? They did grant an allowance of no less than 1,0007. a-year to the individual who, at that time, was Roman Ca

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The Bishop of Exeter had not been aware, that this matter was about to be brought under their Lordships' considera-tholic bishop in Lower Canada. tion. He was, nevertheless, rejoiced, that repeated, that in spite of the determinait had been brought forward, and he was tion of the Government not to continue equally rejoiced at the temperate manner the allowance of 3,000l. a-year to the in which the noble Baron who presented successor of the Bishop of Quebec, 1,000l. the petition had pointed out the course of which he most munificently gave to the which should be pursued in matters of Bishop of Montreal, they did propose to this description by a Christian Govern- Parliament, and Parliament met the proment. This was a colony containing not position with assent, to give 1,000l. a-year less than half a million of British sub-to the successor of the Roman Catholic jects, whose spiritual interests it would be in the highest degree criminal to neglect. It was unnecessary for him to dwell upon

bishop of Lower Canada. It was also proposed to give to the English bishop of Quebec, not, indeed, the salary which his

their purport to be, that every spiritual person applying to the Bishop for a dispensation to hold two benefices should set forth in writing the value of those benefices, or the average of those benefices, for the three years previous to the application, together with the average amount of the population of each parish during that time, and the distance at which those benefices were separated from each other. The clauses also provided that these statements were to be verified to the satisfaction of the Bishop.

The 113th clause was struck out, and the other clauses were agreed to.

The Earl of Cawdor, who spoke in so low a tone as to be inaudible in the gallery, proposed some amendments, the object of which, as far as we could collect it, seemed to be the abolition of sinecure rectories with a view to their appropriation to the increase of small livings, and also the union of small parishes to large ones adjoining. He had in his own gift a parish which contained only seventy-seven inhabitants, which he wished to see united to a neighbouring living. The amendments which he proposed were in conformity with the recommendations of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners.

Amendments were ordered to be printed and considered on the third reading. Report received.

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HOUSE OF COMMONS,

Friday, July 20, 1838.

MINUTES.] Bills. Read a first time:-Sale of Spirits Licences by Retail Act Suspension.-Read a second time: Arms (Ireland); and Gunpowder (Ireland).—Read a third time:-Fisheries (Ireland); Fines and Recognizances

(Ireland); Loan Societies (Ireland); and Public Records. Petitions presented. By Mr. E. TENNENT, from the Wesleyan Methodists of Belfast, by Mr. J. H. Lowther,

Mr. BRISCOE, Mr. ETWALL, Sir F. TRENCH, Mr. W. O.
STANLEY, and Mr. J. PARKER, several petitions, from

various places, to put an end to Idolatry in India.-By Sir
E. WILMOT, from Guardians of the Poor of the Union of

Perchard, complaining of an Order not to allow the poor to attend the Parish Church.-By Mr. YOUNG, from Spirit Dealers of Cavan, complaining of Grievances. By

Mr. FIELDEN, several, from places in the North of Eng

land, praying for a Ten Hours Factory Bill.-By Mr. GILLON, from several Postmasters, complaining of the pressure of the Post-horse Duties.-By Sir D. ROCHE,

from the Distillers and Spirit Dealers of Limerick, against the Spirit Licence Act in Ireland.-By Mr. G. PALMER, from the Marshal, and other Officers of the Palace Court, against the Imprisonment for Debt Abolition Bill, and

praying for Compensation. By Viscount SANDON, from the Corporation of Liverpool, against certain Clauses in the Imprisonment for Debt Abolition Bill; from the Bolton and Leeds Railway Company, against the Mails on Railways Bill.

HILL COOLIES.] Sir J. Graham wished to know whether her Majesty's Government had made up their minds as to the course which they intended to pursue with regard to the, East-India Labourers' Bill.

Sir G. Grey said, that the bill as it came from the Lords was in its details open to objections. In some cases certainly the bill would act as a prohibition, but in others it would amount to a legal sanction, and on the whole it would not effect the purpose for which it was intended; he therefore proposed to discharge the order, on the understanding that the Indian Government would prevent the emigration of labourers to the West Indies until there should be time for a full investigation of all the circumstances. It was most necessary that contracts should be put an end to, or rather the practice of making contracts should be stopped, when one class of the contracting parties were not aware of the position in which they were placing themselves. His right hon. Friend, the President of the Board of Control, was prepared to state that the prohibition could be enforced for a time, and arrangements could be made to render invalid any contracts not effected in the colony in which the labourer intended to settle, and not made with the sanction of a stipendiary magistrate.

Sir R. Peel desired to know if the hon. Baronet opposite was enabled to state that the Governor in Council did possess authority to prohibit the emigration of natives of the East Indies. If a person calling himself an agent were about to send 100 or 150 of them to the West Indies, could the governor prevent that?

Sir G. Grey observed, that the bill on the Table of the House was confined to emigration under contracts-that was the subject-matter on which the bill would operate. With regard to the powers possessed by the Governor-general, it was a matter to which his right hon. Friend, the President of the Board of Control had turned his attention, and when called upon he would give the House any information that might be required.

Sir R. Peel observed, that the Session had now considerably advanced. If the East-India Labourers' Bill were dropped, it would be necessary to have security given that for two years emigration should be prohibited. He should be content with two years as that would give time for