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shire, was also presented and read; setting forth,

terests were deeply implicated, to endeavour to learn whether important objections were entertained, and where these were communicated, he always exercised his own judgment how far such constituted a fit ground for objection or argument in parliamentary discussion.

The motion was then withdrawn.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Tuesday, April 14.

PETITIONS FROM PERTH, SHROPSHIRE, MANCHESTER, AND BLACKBURN RESPECTING THE RENEWAL OF THE EAST INDIA COMPANY'S CHARTER.] A Petition of several merchants, manufacturers, and other inhabitants of the city of Perth, was presented and read; setting forth,

"That the Petitioners, in common with the rest of their fellow subjects, conceive that they have a right to a free trade with all parts of the British empire, under such regulations as justice and sound policy may require; and that they forbear entering into the discussion of the territorial rights of the East India Company, or the internal government of its possessions, but they humbly confide in the wisdom of the House that, on the expiry of the present Charter, the important interests of the Company will be settled on liberal and fair principles, compatible with the sanction of a free trade to India, under equitable regulations, for the general benefit of the subjects of the United Kingdom; and that the Petitioners humbly apprehend, that the natural effect of throwing open the trade to all the countries beyond the Cape of Good Hope will enable the manufacturers to exert their skill and industry with increased energy and advantage, and not only tend to relieve them under their present hardships, but also the numerous class of suffering operatives, who are, by the calamities of the times, and the tyrannical restrictions of the enemy, deprived of their ordinary means of support; and praying the House to adopt such measures on the expiry of the present Charter as may establish and confirm the sanction of a free trade to the British merchant, under suitable regulations, to the eastern parts of the world, neither cramped by unnecessary restrictions, nor fettered by exclusive monopolies, as at present, nor injured by preferences granted to neutral nations."

A Petition of the iron masters, proprietors of the principal iron works in Shrop

That the Petitioners beg leave to represent to the House, that though they are fully sensible that it is a duty incumbent upon every subject of these realms to submit, and the Petitioners are willing cheerfully to submit, to every commercial regu lation and restriction by which the welfare of the state is essentially promoted, yet they apprehend, and beg leave to state, that the principle of restraining the subjects of these realms from trading with foreign nations and our distant possessions, by granting an exclusive exercise of that right to a chartered company, is so far from being essential to the welfare of the state, that it in itself is an obstacle to the increase of our commercial intercourse with those foreign nations and distant possessions; and that the principle of conducting trade with foreign nations and distant possessions, by means of a chartered company, tends to increase the price paid by them for the transport of our manufactures, and to enhance that which the Petitioners pay for their produce, and thereby, instead of being a benefit to this country, is an injury, and consequently an injustice, to both; and therefore praying, that, if possible, the exclusive Charter of the East India Company may be abolished, or that, if, from circumstances not within the knowledge of the Petitioners, it should appear to the House necessary to concede to the East India Company the exclusive privilege of trading to some particular nation situated beyond the Cape of Good Hope, such concession may be as limited as the nature of the case will admit; and the Petitioners earnestly intreat of the House so in its wisdom to protect the rights of his majesty's subjects, as that they may not be restricted from a free intercourse with our Indian possessions, nor, without absolute necessity, from trading with any of those nations which are situated beyond the Cape of Good Hope."

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from representing to the House the distress which they feel as a body, in a much severer degree than most of their fellow subjects, occasioned, as it appears to the Petitioners, by a perseverance in that system of commercial regulations known under the name of the British Orders in Council, adopted and pursued ever since the year 1807, and at the same time expressing to the House a doubt, which the Petitioners very sensibly feel, how those measures can tend to promote the national security, which, after so long a trial, produce nothing but ruin to the national commerce; and that their houses and warehouses are stored with goods prepared for foreign markets to which they have no access; when the ports of Europe were shut to our manufactures, they consoled themselves with the fruits of their trade to America, and since the interruptions that have happened to the extensive commerce previously carried on between that country and this, they have endeadeavoured to find markets for their goods elsewhere; but collectively their endeavours and their enterprizes prove vain and fruitless, large stocks of manufactured goods remain on hand, their capitals are locked up in commodities, for the sale of which the proper markets are shut against them, and their industry is paralized; and that the number of bankruptcies and insolvencies that have recently taken place in old commercial houses of well-established credit and extensive dealings, as well as those of lesser note, are the effect, and the evidence also, of the ruinous consequences of the British Orders in Council, for, until they were acted upon, the commercial Decrees of the French government were harmless to the Petitioners; if other evidence be needful, they appeal to the fact of the great reduction within the last four years in the number of master manufacturers in the said riding, a class of men whose active employment of a small capital, aided by their own personal skill and industry, has essentially contributed to raise and establish a competition, and a spirit of enterprize and exertion in the whole body of merchants and manufacturers which has so long secured the preference to British woollens in every foreign market, and that the distress and ruin of so many master manufacturers, added to the general stagnation of trade, have thrown out of employ great numbers of the labouring class of manufacturers, many of whom are thereby driven to seek

parochial relief, or to worse and more unjustifiable courses, and instead of contributing by their usual labours to the wealth of the nation, only multiply the heavy burdens and distresses to which those of the Petitioners are subjected who are not yet reduced to the same deplorable condition; and praying the House to take these facts into their most serious consideration, and adopt such measures, tending either to rescind or modify the aforesaid Orders in Council or otherwise, as the House in their wisdom shall deem best calculated to restore and preserve the trade of the United Kingdom, and in particular to open and establish our commerce with the whole continent of America."

Ordered to lie upon the table.

MOTION RESPECTING COLONEL M.MAHON'S BEING APPOINTED PRIVATE SECRETARY TO THE PRINCE REGENT.] Mr. C. W. Wynn rose, pursuant to notice, to move for the production of the Appointment of colonel M'Mahon to the new office of Private Secretary to his royal highness the Prince Regent. When he first gave notice of his intention to make this motion, he little thought that he should have been called upon to go into the subject in detail. He had imagined, that it was as much a motion of course as that which he had a few minutes ago submitted to the House; but he now found that it was to be resisted; on what ground it was impossible for him to conceive. He should have thought, that this was a case, which of all others rendered it necessary that the subject should be regularly before the House, that it might receive a formal and deliberate consideration. The office was a new one. There was no precedent for it in the history of the public acts of this country. Such an office might, indeed, have privately existed for a few years back, from the necessity of the case; but in the constitutional history of this country there had never been any thing like it. Under these circumstances, when such an appointment had for the first time been publicly avowed, surely it was but just and reasonable that the House of Commons should have that appointment formally before them, that they might perform their duty in examining into the matter, and expressing their opinion whether it was fitting or not that such an office should exist. He never recollected that such a motion under such circumstances

had been resisted. Nothing more was at present required than the production of the appointment in question. Was it becoming that this should be refused?-that they should be prevented from discussing a subject which most peculiarly called for attention in the regular and proper manner, because a minister chose to deny them the regular document? Yet certain it was, that notwithstanding the novelty of this appointment,-the uncertainty as to its exact nature and duties,-and the propriety of an examination into the matter by the House of Commons, they knew nothing more about it than what they learned from the Gazette, namely, "That colonel McMahon had been appointed private secretary to his royal highness the Prince Regent" and what they heard from the right hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer, namely, "That the duties of the office in question were those of a private secretary." From a suggestion across the table, he understood it was to be said, that no regular appointment to this office had been made out,-that there was nothing but a Minute of Treasury for the payment of the salary. If that was really the case, it was an additional objection to the proceeding. If the office was to be constituted at all, it ought to be done in an open and public manner, that the country might at any rate have some person to whose responsibility they might look. Here, again, he might be met with the appointment of colonel Taylor: but his answer was, that the appointment of colonel Taylor was only justified by the necessity of the case. This was an entirely different matter. It could not surely be pretended that the circumstances were at all similar. But what really was this office? What was the nature of the holder's situation? Was he to be a cabinet-minister,'or a mere clerk or amanuensis? From any information that had been given on the subject, he was totally at a loss to know which of them. But where was the use of such an appointment? Did the circumstances of the present times render it peculiarly necessary? Let the House only look at the history of the country. King William the third was the soul-the prime manager and mover of the confederacy existing in his reign for the preservation of the liberty of Europe. He, besides, sat in his own cabinet; scrutinized every department of the state; brought every transaction under his own eye; yet king William had no private

secretary of this kind. When the house of Brunswick came to the throne,-when George the 1st came to this country, a stranger to our language, if at any time the appointment of such a secretary was reasonable, surely it was at that time: yet George the 1st had no such secretary. But it was hardly necessary to go farther back than the reign of his present Majesty. They all knew how he had attended to public business till the period of his unfortunate illness. He had probably

paid a more rigid attention to business than any of his predecessors. No appointment, however trifling, was made without taking his pleasure upon it. From the expiration of the American war to the commencement of the present one, he had acted not only as a king but as a commander in chief; his pleasure having been always previously taken by the secretary at war upon every commission granted in the army. From the situation which he once officially held, he knew that there were in the home department several notes of his Majesty, proving how much attention he had paid to the public business; every act and appointment having been submitted to him, not nominally, but really for the purpose of his exercising a judgment upon it. Yet, amidst all this multiplicity of business, no one had ever thought of appointing a secretary of this kind to his Majesty, till the unfortunate complaint which led to the appointment of colonel Taylor. At last, then came the appointment of colonel Taylor; and they had to consider whether that formed any precedent for the present office conferred upon colonel M'Mahon. Were the circumstances the same? Every one knew they were totally different. The appointment of colonel Taylor was the consequence of, and arose from the deprivation of sight to, which his Majesty was subjected. He was so blind as not to be able to read the communications of his ministers. It became necessary to provide some remedy for this inconvenience, and the appointment in question had been consequently adopted, as the most expedient plan. But it never had been imagined that this office was to be made a precedent for others of the kind, under circumstances altogether different. If ever this could have been believed, the appointment of Col. Taylor would unquestionably have been more particularly noticed: and, indeed, when the appoint ment was known to have been made, and

alluded to in that House, he recollected surely it was not intended that the private that there appeared to be a feeling on secretary should sign the Regent's name both sides, that since such an office had be- to these commissions. If the labour was come necessary, it would have been better really too burthensome, it might be lightto have made it a public and responsible ened by an expedient which had at a forBut this feeling was suppressed for mer period been adopted. The sovereign the moment, from a regard to the wishes might execute a warrant empowering the of his majesty, who was unwilling to ex- commander in chief to sign as many compose his situation, and jealous of having missions as were to appear in the Gazette his infirmity brought too much under the on one occasion. This had, indeed, heen public eye. For this reason many of recommended before to his present Mathose who thought the nature of the ap- jesty; but for the reasons before stated, pointment ought to have been considered the plan had been rejected. His Majesty by parliament, refrained from urging the had been averse to do any thing that might matter at that time; but if they had con- bring his infirmity more under the obser ceived that this could have been made vation of the public than was absolutely any ground for the present appointment, indispensable. But where was now the they would probably have acted different- reason against the adoption of this exly. Where, he would again ask, was the pedient? Where was the necessity for a necessity for this office? King William private secretary to read to his Royal Highhad no such secretary! King George the ness the communications of his ministers? first had no such secretary! And why His Royal Highness resided in London,And-why had they not? Because the Secretary of the ministers had an opportunity of daily State for the Home Department was the consultation with him. There was no King's private secretary, and it was the bu- need for a private secretary to communisiness of the Secretary of State to wait on cate the result of their deliberations and his Majesty, and take his pleasure with re- their advice. He was anxious to be disgard to the business of his situation. Such tinctly informed, for it was a matter of no had been the usual course; such had been slight importance, whether it was really the course under his present Majesty, until to be permitted, that the communications the period of his malady; and even at that of the cabinet council to the sovereign period, it would have been better if the should pass through any third person Secretary of State had daily attended his whatever. If this was the object, then it Majesty, and taken his pleasure on the bu- became more particularly the duty of the siness of his office, without the interven-House to examine into the nature and detion of another person. Perhaps this plan would have been followed, had it not been for the dislike which his Majesty took to his London residence. Averse to remain in a situation where his infirmity would be more exposed to public view, he resolved to reside at Windsor; so that the office to which colonel Taylor had been appointed became absolutely necessary. There was no alternative between this and the stoppage of public business, unless a new secretary of state had been appointed. But where then, was the reason for the creation of this new office at the present moment, with a salary of 2,000l. a year? The right hon. gentleman opposite suggested that there was a great accumulation of business. But had it really accumulated so much within these few years as to require the ereation of a new office, where no disabi lity in his Royal Highness to execute that business was ever alleged?" Look at the number of commissions in the army," it was said: "consider what a labour it is even to sign them." It might be so; but

sign of this appointment, and the consequences with which it was likely to be attended. He had no hesitation in saying, that it was a most unconstitutional proceeding, to allow the secrets of the council to pass through a third person; and he perhaps, no counsellor. (Hear, hear, from the Treasury bench.) He did not well know how to understand that cheering: it might perhaps be said, that colonel McMahon was a privy counsellor, (hear, hear). Why, then, this only made the matter so much the worse. By his secretary's oath, supposing him a mere clerk, he would be bound faithfully to read the communications to his Royal Highness, and faithfully to write whatever his Royal Highness should command. But in his charac ter of privy counsellor, he was bound by his oath to give his advice upon what he read. He (Mr. Wynn) if he were in such a capacity should, in reading such communications, feel himself bound to give the best counsel he could upon the subject to which they referred. But was it really

fitting that the cabinet ministers should pensate Col. McMahon for that of which have their advice to their sovereign sub- he had been deprived in obedience to the ject to the revision of his private secretary. sense of parliament? He would not enter If, indeed, it were acknowledged to be into the nature of the services of Col. consistent with the constitution of this M'Mahon; it was doubtless proper that country, to have both an interior and they should be rewarded, but were the exterior cabinet, he could understand why places in the household of the Regent there should be a fourth secretary to carry caught at with such rapacious greediness the communications from one to the other. that nothing could be saved for a faithful If it were constitutional for the sovereign servant? Would not the privy purse sufto have both an open ministry and a pri- fice, or if the salary were inadequate, could vate junta to carry on the government, not the place of equerry be subjoined? such a secretary might be necessary to If both together were not sufficient, surely conduct the correspondence between other situations might have been discothese two bodies. If it were once allow-vered to fill up the measure of reward. ed to be regular for a general officer, re- He was quite at a loss to imagine, on what turning from an important expedition, and solitary ground this appointment was restretiring from a situation of great responsi-ed, since it was neither authorized by the bility, to give in a private report to the constitution, nor justified by necessity. Sovereign with a request not to shew it to The Prince Regent, with all the active vihis open advisers, then, indeed, there must gour of youth, and with none of the inbe a private secretary of this kind. If it firmities of his father, could require no was regular that the high offices of the such assistance as ministers seemed anxihousehold should be hawked about, by the ous to force upon him. He would rather menial servants and attendants of the crown have deferred these remarks until the -as it was possible they might be on some paper was laid upon the table, but since occasions then he could conceive the his motion was to be resisted, he wished to use of such an office as this; though, even point out the danger that would be incurthen, he was satisfied there ought to be a red in such an attempt. He concluded by regular and formal appointment, that the moving, "That there be laid before the officer might be responsible. This was a House a copy of any Instrument, by which most important view of the subject, and the right hon. John M'Mahon has been one which deserved the most serious at appointed Private Secretary to the Prince tention of the House. Regent in the name and on the behalf of his Majesty. Also for a copy of any Minute of the Board of Treasury thereon, directing the payment of the salary attached to the same."

If the time at which the advisers of the crown had chosen to recommend this illegal step were contemplated, it would be found equally obnoxious. He would not now enlarge on the present distresses of the country, (on which nearly all could speak with feeling, because nearly all felt,) not because he feared the imputation that he was attempting to excite discontent, but because it was not called for. He despised popular clamour as much as any man, but he entertained great respect for public opinion, and public opinion declared that at this period, least of all, should any addition be made to the vast expenditure of the country. Colonel M'Mahon in the first instance, was named to an office, the abolition of which, a Committee of the House had strongly recommended, and when parliament decided that he should not retain it, the ingenuity of government had been directed to discover a new office, at least objectionable in the next degree. What would the public say of this but that a determination was evinced to create a place in order to com(VOL. XXII.)

Lord Castlereagh said, that the hon. gen. tleman had raised this question to a degree of importance which could in no view belong to it. The hon. gentleman was not justified in describing the motion as one which it was the intention of ministers to resist, as his right hon. friend (the Chancellor of the Exchequer), had said, that he had no objection to the production of the document in question; but that the grounds on which those documents were sought for, formed the objection to their production. For, if the object of the motion was to ground an impeachment of the appointment upon them, without any view to the instrument under which it was made, further than the production of it, he should certainly resist it, as he conceived that appointment necessary, under the circumstances which gave rise to it. The mere minute of the Treasury which constituted the appointment could not be necessary (2)

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