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C. E. He tells you plainly, (a) the Supremacy be [the Pope) claims, is no less than an absolute să
vereignty over all the Churches and Kingdoms of the Earth, their Bishops and their Kings : and this not by any Ecclefiaftical Constitution," or Grant of Temporal Princes, 'which might be conditional limited and reoocable ; and would infer their Superiority to bim: but by a divine and indefeasible Right, as Successor of St. Peter, and Heir of all the Promises made to him, unalterable, unlimitable, and unaccount able to any Power upon Earth, p. 9. And you do not deny thác your Popes ordinarily claim all this ; and that a great part at least of those of your Communion, own and plead for it. His Spiritual Power Isúpa pose you will admit to be less disputable ; and of his claim of an absolute Temporal Supremacy the Vindicator (b) has given divers Instances, which you have found it too hard to make a Reply to.
R. C. Mr. L. takes it for granted, that the Pope is asz universal Bishop, and án universal Monarcb, p. 8.
C. Z. By no means; buc only that'he vainly pretends to be so.
R. C. But that is a great Mistake, for the Pope does not pretend toic: These are Titles which be does
C. R. If you could make that out, it would go a great 'way towards silencing the Differences that are on foot between us. But you may as well attempt to wash a Blackmoor white.
R. C. By an Universal. Bishop, we mean him to whom all other Bishops are Vicars.
Ibid. C. E. And I am sure, whosoever reads the Speeches of Laynez General of the Jesuits, the Legates, and some others in the Council of Trent, would be strongly tempred to believe this to be what the Pope most earnestly defir'd to have had
(4) Cafe Rated, p 82.
(6) Cafe trulyfated, p. 11.
decided in his Favour; which made his Agents there so eager for it. Nor will you ever prevail with his Holiness to renouce this high. Claim, or to thank you for your making so free with him, as to renounce it for him. Thus as to his Spiritual Claim; and then as to his Temporal, I have just now put you in mind of your not being able to answer the Pleas brought for it by the Vindicator; not to mention the many more that are commonly to be inet with amongst your Writers.
R. C. Some would have it thought a considerable Grievance, that Bishops at their Ordination take an Oath of Fidelity to the Pope, p. 12.
C. E. And must it not be a great Grievance to Princes to have their Bishops swear to the Pope against themselves? It is certain they (a) oblige themselves inviolably to the Pope, and without aay Salvo for their Prince, and the Duty and Obedience they owe to him; who has therefore no feason to look upon them thenceforward as his faithful and loyal Subje&s.
R. C. But this and the like being introduced by Custom, if liable to juft Exceptions, may be reform’d. Ibid.
C. E. And will you do me the Favour to leč me know, what one Pope since the use of this Path, the Pall, &c. ever to this Day, shew'd the least Inclination to any material Reformation, in this or any other kind. This you cannot do ; and yet here you speak of it, as if it were what would readily be complied with: Though in your Conscience you know the contrary. However, I doubt if any thing of this Nature were propounded, you would be tempted to object, as you say here concerning the Memorial heretofore drawn up in Germany, that what the Reformers (a) Pontifical. Rom. de consecrar: Electi in Epifc.
aim'd at, was not Unity, but Schism: Not to correct the Abules of a Court, but to subvert the Faith of the Catholick Church, p. 13.
R. C. It is to me a matter of no small Surprize, ibat some of those that inveigh most bitterly against the Pope's Supremacy, should yet maintain, that the Jurifdi&tion of every Bishop whatsoever reaches over the whole Church. This seems to be the Opinion of Mr. L's. Vindicator, p. 33. which he endeavours to back with the Authority of St. Chrysostom, p. 13.
take occasion immediately after, to quote Mr. Stevens as on your fide ? Does he not say, as there cited by you, There is an Authority which every Bishop bás throughout the wbole Catholick Church? And do ỳou not argue from hence, in behalf of the Pope's universal Authority? And yet you think fit to quarrel with Dr. Barrow and the Vindicator; for saying what you approve of in him. But your Head, I find, was so full of that abominably infamous Fiếion of the Nags head Ordination, though against all Sense and Reason, and very good (a) Authority to the contrary, that it is no great wonder if you forget your self.
R. C. I tell you the Vindicator endeavours to back bis Opinion with the Authority of St. Chryfoftom.
C. E. Very right : He thews St. Chryfoftom is plainly on his side; and challenges you to con fute both St. Chryfoftom and St. Paul. But they are both so directly against you, that you thought it the wisest way to pass them by; and fo stand ftill indebted for an Answer to them, and are like to do so. But I shall not throw your Obje&tion aside, as you did che Vindicators, when thus powerfully backed.
R. C. What is it then you have to offer:
(a) See Maf. de Minift. Eccl. Angl. c. 8.
C. E. That every Bishop as such, is to have a concern for the whole Church, so as to be ready to serve any part of it, as there shall be Need and Opportunity; for instance, to ordain other Bishops where they are wanting and cannot otherwise be had, as (a) Eusebius of Samosata did in Syria, Phanicia and Palistine, during the Arian Persecution under the Emperor Valens, or to affift a fick Bishop in Ordaining, Confirming, or any other Office, doc. must necessarily be meant, not only by the Passages of St. Chryfoftom, in the 330 Page of the Case truly stated; but St. Cyprian's Doctrine likewise teaching that (b) Episcopatus unus eft, cujus a fingulis in folidum pars tenetur. There is one Episcopate , of which each Bishop polleles a part, yet so as to have an Intereft in the whole. What sort of Jurisdiction you take to be implied in this I cannot tell: But I am sure, it the Roman Pontif would claim no more, than either of these Fathers speak of, all our Contests about an universal Supremacy would immediately be at an End.
R. C. St. Augustine, St. Jerome and St. Cyprian, all declare for the Chair of St. Peter, as the Rock on which the Church is built, and the only Principle of Unity, p. 15, 16.
C. E. Upon this you glory very triumphantly, as if Dr. Barrow, and every other Opponent must fall before you : as though only three Authorities, had they been as plainly on your side, as you would have them, would have been sufficient to out-weigh that large Cloud of Witnesses the Dr. has brought against you, with these same three amongst the rest. But when all is done, here is no such mighty Business in these three Citations: For let us see what you can make of them.
(a) Theodoret H. E. l. 4. C. 12. (b) De Unit. Eccle, p. 108. Ed. Oxon.
As you refer
As for Sti Augustine, he professes indeed that he was kept in the Church by a Succession of Bishops down from St. Peter; in the Discourse to, but it is in the 4th, not as you say in the stb Chapter. There he reckons up several Causes of his adherence to the Catholicks, in Oppofition to the Manichees, namely the Consent of People and Nations; an Authority begun by Miracles, nourished by Hope, encreased by Charity, confirm d by Humility, a Succession from the Scat of St. Peter down to the Pope that tben was, and lastly the Name of Catholick, which none of the Hereticks, though fond enough of it, would so appropriate to themselves, as to fhew their own Temple or House, to any that should enquire where they might go to a Catholick Church. And here I suppose you will not say, is any Proof of St. Peter's universal Supremacy, much less of the Pope's. But it may be your Dependance is upon the other Words hitherto omitted ; cui pafcendas oves suas post resurrectionem Dominus commendavit, to whom our Lord after his Resurrection commended his Sheep to be fed. Yer you cannot fay St. Peter could not either feed or govern our Lord's Sheep, as the other Apofties did, without an universal Jurisdi. &ion; which it is not pretended that any
of them had. St. Peter was to be the first Preacher of the Gospel, and to have an Authority or Jurisdiction over those he conyerçed, as the rest of the Apostles had also over their Converts; or upon occasion in other parts of the Church, buc you may study till Dooms-Day, before you can evince St. Augustine to have means more than this by the Words here alledg’d.
The next is St. Ferome, who writing to Pope Damafus says, I am joind in Communion with your Holiness, that is with the Chair of Perer ; upon
that Rock I. know the Church is built: whosoever eats the Lamb out of this House is profane; whosoever gather's