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duce the conviction of innocent men, evening, in answer to the manly and while even the conspirators were in indignant scorn of the individual he possession of documents to prove the had assailed. “I will not be depaying of the witnesses we had to barred from doing my duty fearlessbring forward on the part of the ly by any man, however he may be

These are the charges ; and supported. In saying 'fearlessly,' I I admit the facts on which the ho allude not to that species of courage nourable and learned gentleman which is recognised in a court of hofounds his allegations. I will not nour, and of which I know nothing. trouble him about documents; and There is blood upon this hand-I remore, I would suffer him, unanswer- gret it deeply—and he knows it. He ed and unheeded, to make any asser knows that I have a vow in Heaven, tions respecting me he pleases, if my else he would not have ventured to own character alone were implica- address me in such language, or to ted. I would not trouble the House presume that his insolence should with any defence; for there is some go unpunished. He knows it-and thing here that tells me there is not there is not one man in the circle of a second gentleman present who our acquaintance but knows it also; would believe it possible that I could and knows, at the same time, that, but be guilty of the conduct attributed for that vow, he dared not address to me by the honourable and learned me as he has done.” gentleman.--(Loud and long-conti : This mixture of balderdash and nued cheering.)–He has unsparing- swagger was received by the House ly brought charges against me in ta with ridicule and disgust; and it deverns in the streets-before the served to be so received, for it was, rabble--(Loudcheers)-before those in effect, imputing rank cowardice to amongst whom I go, not as a volun Mr Doherty, by asserting that he had teer, but as the delegate of the Lord assumed a tone towards him, Mr Lieutenant, with important and sa O'Connell, which he would not have cred duties to perform, which, I dared

dared to do, except that he knew Mr trust, I do perform, faithfully, fear. O'Connell does not fight; a tone lessly, and, notwithstanding the as which, of course, he would not assertion of the learned gentleman, sume towards any other member of mercifully.- (Continued cheers.)-Í the House who does fight. Now, I trust, that whenever the learned gen am far from wishing to question the tleman shall find courage to bring personal courage of the hon. member forward his motion, I shall be able to for Clare ; I will not cast the shadow prove the utter falsehood of his daily of a doubt upon the sincerity of his and ordinary slanders."

regret, that his hands are stained How Mr O'Connell made good his with the blood of a fellow-creature; allegations against the Solicitor-Ge- every man must recall with horror neral-how he redeemed his tavern such a calamity, even under the most made pledges, when face to face with aggravated circumstances in which the man he so grossly accused in his satisfaction is sought or given for an absence-how the whole affair dwin injury, and infinitely more so, where dled down into a tame and spiritless some frivolous altercation may have attack upon the constabulary force, led to the catastrophe.. I do not and upon the system under which condemn his Heaven-registered vow the alleged misconduct had been com never again to engage in the strife of mitted-how, in fact, the swaggering blood. All these things are matters denunciations which rolled from his of personal feeling and supposed molips in Ireland,“ like a rattling peal ral duty, which concern Mr O'Conof thunder," died upon his tongue in nell himself

, and no one else. But England like a lover's whisper, a this I must be allowed to say, that a soft murmuring complaint, meek and man who, by a voluntary act of his gentle as the voice of cooing doves own, puts himself out of the condi

-åre abundantly known to all who tion of responsibility for his words have heard, and to all who have and actions, other than by an appeal read, the debate of the following such as he knows will not, and someevening (May 12.) But before I no times cannot, be made-(I allude to tice that debate, i let me advert to an appeal before a legal tribunal) one part of Mr O'Connell's reply this who intrenches himself behind

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“vow in Heaven," while he proclaims have been received with cheers by on earth that he abjures a practice the ministers. The honourable and which all other men, moving in a cer learned member has applied strong tain sphere of society, recognise-I epithets to the honourable member do say, that a person so circumstan for Clare. What matters it whether ced, and by his own free choice, not the honourable member is a big lion, by any necessity which he deplores a puny dog, or any other four-foothe cannot overrule, would, were all ed animal?-(Immense laughter.) his feelings of the right kind, abstain, I hope the honourable member for with singular delicacy and caution, Clare will not shape his conduct by from word or deed which involved the advice of the honourable and consequences he knew he was not learned member, although he swells prepared to meet. He would do this, like the bull and the frog, bursting, no less from a general sense of pro with self-importance.-(The roars of priety and of justice towards indivi{ laughter might have been heard at duals, than from a natural repug- Charing Cross.) Whata man to read nance to incur the suspicion that he a lecture! It was like the mewing was playing the secure game of a of a kitten. The honourable memprivileged bully. In ordinary life, a ber for Clare has not lost his teeth; man who wears a rancorous heart, he can bite still; and when the time and carries a foul tongue, with a cra comes, I will halloo him on," and so ven spirit, is apt to be upon familiar forth, down to his concluding boast, terms with canes, horsewhips, and that his “ honourable and learned neat's leather. Mr O'Connell stands friend had no occasion to be afraid absolved from the last, not altogether of those two honourable and learned so as to the other two; but his “vow gentlemen; no, nor of ten like them." in Heaven" shuts out from redress But the most edifying part of the those he wrongs or insults, as effec honourable member's speech was that tually as a white feather would; and, wherein he came to Mr O'Connell's therefore-but, as Hamlet says, “give assistance, to help him out of the every man his deserts, and who among dilemma of holding a different lanus shall escape whipping ?"--much guage on different sides of the chanless-Order ! order! Chair! chair! . nel. Mr Doherty, in reference to

The honourable member for Clare this, had said, “I did expect (in conis not a fool; consequently, he may formity with the custom recognised derive a useful lesson from the me. among gentlemen, that what a man morable castigation of Mr Doherty says in one place, he is ready to say and Mr North; for it is only “ your in another) that the honourable gendull ass that will not mend his pace tleman would have taken the first with beating.” But poor Mr Hume! opportunity in this House, either of I never saw the worthy calculator so denying those words and disclaiming irate. He“ fretted like gummed vel them, or of repeating in this House vet;" and I was really apprehensive, jis objections to the SCOUNDREL ARIwhen he first rose, that he intended STOCRACY, the authors of the subto strip and challenge both the Soli- letting act, and boldly call upon the citor-General and his learned friend people to stand forward in their own to a bout at fisticuffs, upon the school- defence.” Mr Hume justified the boy principle of one down, and the conduct of Mr O'Connell by a feliother come on. No turkey-cock, dis citous illustration borrowed from puting the gate of a farm-yard, ever himself. “ Is it to be supposed," looked so red in the gills. And then said he, " that because I am a memlike Audrey, who thanked" the gods berof Parliament, and choose to go she was not poetical,” he thanked to the Crown and Anchor tavern, and God he“ was not a learned gentle- make observations there upon the man;" thinking, I suppose, with Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer, or it Dogberry,“ to be well favoured is may be upon his Majesty's Attorneythe gift of fortune, but that to read General—is it to be supposed, I say, and write comes by nature.”—“I am that I am compelled to repeat the surprised,” said Mr Hume," that the same observations here? I say, that pompous and almost insolent speech if I make use of observations out of of the honourable member who has doors, let them call me to account just sitten down (Mr North) should for them.” (Mr Hume has no vow in

beaven.) “ I admit that I say many of the Attorney-General!" It is im. things in this House which I should possible for me to say what differ. be afraid to say out of this House, ence being in Newgate might make knowing that there is such a thing in in the foolish appearance of the hoexistence as an Attorney-General, nourable member; but I should not and that it is possible for him to find think it could be much-certainly pliant juries. I may be taunted with not so much as he himself seems to cowardice, as I have been already, imagine. I should like to hear Mr for this declaration. But my doc- O'Connell's opinion upon this point, trine is, that in these cases discretion and whether he feels himself forti is the better part of valour; and then, fied in his own practice by the know, how foolish should I look, if I were ledge he now has of the doctrines of to find myself laid by the heels in the honourable member for MonNewgate, owing to the interposition trose.

FATIGUING DEBATES, We have had the usual annual minutes to half an hour. If these complaints during the last month, of four hundred talkers could be in. the great arrears of public business, duced to become listeners, and to and of the extreme difficulty-not to content themselves merely with hosay impossibility-of getting through nestly voting; and if the dozen good all that ought to be got through. Mr speakers would resolve to say no Hume complains * that he was some thing more than was absolutely netimes kept out of bed twenty-one cessary upon a subject, public busihours at a stretch; and therefore, he ness would be got through easily proposed Parliament should meet in enough; members would get to their November, that they might have the beds in good time, to the infinite full benefit of the long nights. Mr comfort of their wives and families, Huskisson suggested that honourable and the saving of their own health; members should not make speeches and five months out of the seven upon presenting petitions, but re would be abundantly sufficient for serve their eloquence for the discus- all purposes of public good. How sion of the several measures to which much unnecessary talking there is they respectively referred. Sir Ro- may be guessed at by the following bert Peel admitted the increasing diffi- calculation. It has been computed, eulty of getting through the public and pretty accurately, from the full business, and thought, if the House notes of a short-hand writer, that a sat the whole year round, they would man speaking, not rapidly, but fluentstill be short of time, unless they de- ly, speaks from five to six columns voted more hours than merely from of a newspaper in an hour. When, seven to twelve each evening to the therefore, the House sits from four dispatch of public business. Now, o'clock in the afternoon till three it is quite certain, that not only Sir the next morning, or eleven hours, Robert himself and his right ho- it speaks above sixty columns, or nourable friend, but Mr Hume, and more than five whole newspapers of every member then present, knew twenty columns each! Only ima. the evil lay in the scarcity of SILENT gine Mr Hume, for example, speak MEMBERS. There are not more than ing three hours, or talking a Mor: twelve good speakers in the whole ning-Chronicle-ful in one speech! House of Commons, and not one ora- The papers, however, rarely give tor in the whole twelve. I will not more than twelve columns to the name the twelve, for it would be in- debate, or one-fifth of what is said ; vidious; so every man is at liberty to and I put it to any one who has read put himself down upon the list. But twelve columns of a debate, whether though there are only twelve good he could not have spared one-half of speakers, there are four hundred that quantity even, and been the talkers-four hundred members who, wiser with the other half ? No, no, one night with another, let off a it is in the immoderate prating, the speech, varying in duration from five eternal talking of small thinkers, and

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not the meeting of Parliament in Fe of them. In the early part of the bruary instead of November, that Regency, a notice of motion was makes the session too short for the given,” (I think he said by Mr Stuart business that has to be done, and of Wortley,)“ respecting the then Prinnecessity occasions either its total cess of Wales. The evening came. omission, or what is worse for the The House was crowded, even to the country, its crude, hurried, and in- side galleries, and below the bar, digested performance. The parent We had all ordered our carriages and of this evil, as I formerly mentioned, servants at one o'clock in the morn. is the practice of reporting the de- ing, expecting a long, animated, and bates. I have myself heard members important debate. Before the mocongratulating themselves that the tion came on, however, some memChronicle, or Times, or Morning ber on the ministerial side moved the Post, had given them one, two, or standing order for the exclusion of three columns, as the case might be, strangers. What was the consewith as keen a satisfaction as if they quence? We had nobody but ourwere paid so much a-line for their selves to talk to ; and we soon grew speeches. · I remember a conversa tired of that. The debate was all tion I once had with the late Brins- over, and the house adjourned, by ley. Sheridan upon this subject. eight o'clock; and I recollect I was “Sir," said he, “I'll give you an in- in time, after it, for half-price at stance of the influence which report Drury Lane theatre.” ing our debates has upon the length

SENSITIVE PRIVY COUNCILLORS. In one of my silent speeches, (on perannuated upon L.750 for importhe 12th of February,) I observed, tant services; but though superan: that “the most edifying alacrity is al- nuated for the customs, though too ways displayed in paring down a old and feeble for his duty there, he salary of L.500 a-year; but one of is brisk and vigorous enough to be L.5000 a-year, the lean hand of eco an agent for Ceylon, at a salary of nomy approaches not.” Sir James L.1200 a-year. This is bad. Granted. Graham has since endeavoured to But it is worse to see Lord Cathcart abolish this distinction, by his mo- holding a pension of L.2000 a-year, tion for“ an account of all salaries together with the sinecure of viceprofits, pay, fees, and emoluments, admiral of Scotland, worth from two whether civil or military, from the to three thousand a-year, besides alt 6th January, 1829, to the 5th January, his military allowances as a general 1830, held and enjoyed by each of officer, and colonel of a regiment. the members of his Majesty's most There are other minor cases equally honourable privy council, specifying bad; but while they are countenanwith each name, the total amount re. ced by those which are much worse, ceived by each individual, and dis it would be paltry to single out the tinguishing the various services from merely bad for reform. The first which the same is derived." In Lord of the Admiralty, for instance, support of this motion, the honour- has L.5000 a-year, (a salary augmenta able baronet adduced some striking ed during the war prices,) besides proofs, not merely of the justice and holding a sinecure of L.3150 a-year decency of retrenchment in the pre- in Scotland, (keeper of the Privy sent state of the country, but of the Seal,) while, by order of the Lords mockery, as well as injustice and of the Admiralty, every unhappy cruelty, of making that little less, half-pay lieutenant and subaltern of which the subaltern officers of go- ficer, who goes to receive his pay, is vernment, the working bees of the enjoined to take the following oath : hive, get for their labour. Nor is this “ I do solemnly swear, that I am not all Why make, or attempt to make, in holy orders--that I have not had, the small fry of pensioners and sine from (blank day) to (blank day) any curists give back their hundreds, employment, civil, or military, unwhen the leviathans are not made to der his Majesty, or the colonies, or disgorge their thousands ? A clerk any place beyond seas, or any other of the customs, for example, is su- goverpment,” &c. So, in the mili

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tary service: His Grace of Wel leather · breeches, top boots,' and lington, Sir George Murray, Sir Henspurs, carrying his wig under his ry Hardinge, &c. receive all their arnı; or the Speaker of the House of militáty allowances in conjunction Commons to light a cigar after he with their civil salaries; but a half. had counted the House at four o'clock, pay captain or lieutenant dare not as to induce the Chancellor of the draw the wages of one of the mes Exchequer to do any thing for which sengers of the Treasury, without first he could not find a precedent; while, relinquishing his pittance of half-pay, on the other hand, there seems to be These comparisons are made from nothing he would not do, provided nið invidious motives. When the the same thing, or something like it, . country was rich; and could afford to : has been already done. Shew him fill the pockets of sinecurists, place a precedent; and you shew him a men, and plurálists, without drain- reason, before which he bows in reing its' own, it did so without a verential submission. grumble. But pinching times have cious !” exclaims an old fellow in come; and thousands and tens of one of our ancient dramas, to one thousands of honest industrious per. who had called him a dotard; “God's sons, who could spend their guinea precious ! call me a dotard !"_"I at the period described, are now fain have causė, just cause, to call thee to turn a shilling six times over be dotard, have I not ?” he replies.fore they part with it. Retrenchment, Nay,” rejoins the first," that's antherefore, has become less a deco- other matter have you cause? Then rous duty than an imperious neces God forbid that I should take ex... sity; and in the temper which this ceptions to be called dotard of one necessity has engendered, it will not that hath cause." This is the readoto knock down a few thieving mag- soning of Mr Goulburn as to precepies, and leave soaring birds of prey dents. Have I not a precedent ?" upon the wing. Ministers, however “ Nay,” replies the right honourable reluctantly, will find that they must gentleman; “ that's another matter reducenotonly their own salaries, but God forbid I should take exception the salaries and emoluments of their to any thing that hath a precedent.” followers, dependents, and relatives; The honourable Baronet communi.. they must do this, I contend, even cated to the Chancellor of the Exwere the necessities of the country chequer the motion he was about to less grinding than they are; for the make, and asked him if he had any measure of last session has made re- objection to it. “ I told him that I formers in Parliament of men who knew no precedent in which the memo were their firmest supporters, while bers of the Privy Council as such, the state of the nation has made had ever been called upon for an acreformers out of it, of those who count of their emoluments.” . And heretofore have been contented with again: “ To bring forward a-motion things as they were. . Thus, the spi- for the emoluments of the members rit of reform, engendered by distress, of the Privy Council was not, as it and the votes for reform created by appeared to me, treating with suffidisgust and disappointment, will do cient respect a body composing the the work of economy; and when council of the Sovereign, and a high once the ponderous machine is fairly judicial court-it was treating them in motion, it will not stop--they who in an individual point of view, and put it in motion will not have power it was not advisable to depart from to stop it at the point which shall precedent, and establish the principle only strip fat sinécurists, rapacious that classes of men were to be held pluralists, and over-gorged placemen, up to obloquy, not because of the of their superfluities. In the main, situations they held, but , because some good will be done; and thus they enjoyed a high dignity at the it is that short-sighted men become same time." His horror of unpreceunconscious instruments of good in dented motions is ludicrous enough; the pursuit of their own selfish and bút, surely, the climax of his absurd.. dishonest purposes.

ity this evening was the tone he as- I suppose it would be as easy to sumed as to the invidious and perpersuade the Lord Chancellor to sonal nature of such enquiries as take his seat upon the woolsack in that proposed by the honourable Ba


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